Showing posts with label Tank. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tank. Show all posts

Sunday, 17 April 2022

The War In Ukraine: General Sir Richard Barrons

 
General Sir Richard Lawson Barrons KCB CBE the then Commander of Joint Forces Command on the 23rd of April 2013
 
 
One could be forgiven for thinking that the former Commander Joint Forces Command,General Sir Richard Barrons,had never been a British Army officer as his article in today's Sunday Times newspaper about the current unpleasantness in Ukraine not only lacks the acronyms and buzzwords which make so many sound like teenage management trainees but also appears to have been written by a man who understands the bloody business of land warfare,however,this otherwise very sensible piece must be challenged on the claim that tanks need to be "made lighter".
 
A Royal Scots Dragoon Guards Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank prepares to fire its main gun during a training exercise near Basra in Iraq on the 17th of November 2008
 
 
Protection against modern infantry weapons weighs hundreds of pounds per square foot,protection against tank fire is even heavier,and a modern armoured vehicle is further burdened by the increasing volume and weight demands of weapons,sensors,communications,countermeasures,battle management systems and their associated power and cooling requirements,a problem which would be exacerbated by the adoption of electric propulsion.
 
A T72 tank destroyed during the Russian invasion of Ukraine near Mariupol on the 7th of March 2022
 
 
Unless the laws of physics change,the trend for ever bigger and heavier tanks is likely to continue and heavy losses of medium tanks in Kuwait,Chechnya,Iraq and Ukraine demonstrate the consequences of ignoring the reality of armoured vehicle design.
 

Tuesday, 22 March 2022

The War In Ukraine: Chastisement

 
A Royal Artillery M110 Eight Inch Self Propelled Howitzer
 
 
Tanks were invented because infantry were unable to advance under fire without suffering heavy casualties yet Russian medium tanks are vulnerable if they enter Ukrainian towns without infantry support,however,explosive projectiles can safely go where tanks and infantry cannot,which is one of the reasons why the corps engineer brigades of An Independent Army For An Independent Nation have Royal Engineers assault regiments with Chastiser Cavalry Heavy Armoured Vehicles armed with Eight Inch Howitzers capable of firing three hundred pound shells to a range of five miles.
 

Sunday, 27 March 2011

Operation Ellamy : A Tornado Sortie


British sources of information about current operations over Libya are rather sparse.

Something interesting can be found on Stuart Hughes' page on youtube.com.




He shows the above video of a Tornado operating over Libya.

The pictures are from the Royal Air Force Mobile News Team and the supporting text appears to be from the same source given the detail.

Here is the text in full in full:



"23 March 2011


An RAF TORNADO GR4 recce mission on the 23 Mar generated RAPTOR imagery identifying Gadaffi's ground forces in a hostile posture 2.5 miles S of AJDABIYA. The imagery was sent to the! RAF's Tactical Imagery Wing (TIW) cell within the JFACHQ in Ramstein for analysis.


24 March 2011


At 1335Z a pair of RAF TORNADO GR4 took off from Gioia del Colle tasked with an Armed Reconnaissance mission in the AJDABIYA area.


At 1435Z, soon after the TORNADO'S arrival over AJDABIYA, the Coalition Combined Air Operations Centre (CAOC) in Ramstein passed the coordinates of a number of Libyan Main Battle tanks to Coalition aircraft in the area; this included the two RAF TORADO'S. The information had been supplied by the TIW Cell based on their assessment of the imagery collected on the previous day.


The TORNADO'S arrived over the target area and identified 4 x MBT. The tanks were still positioned 2.5 miles south of AJDABIYA, with barrels elevated and pointing north towards the town. They were deemed to have clear hostile intent. Other Coalition aircraft located and identified the remaining 6 x MBT.


The TORNADO'S th! en rendezvoused with the VC10 tanker on station in the area for fuel while the other Coalition aircraft identified and engaged their targets; destroying 6 x MNT.


At 1450 post refuelling, the RAF TORNADO'S returned to the target area and, having re-confirmed the targets were still in a hostile posture and that the area was clear of civilians, successfully engaged the 4 x MNT with Brimstone missiles.


One of the Strikes was delayed when a civilian vehicle was spotted close to the target, with the aircraft re-engaging once the vehicle was outside of the danger area.


Initial Battle Damage Assessment indicates all three MBT were destroyed.


At 1735Z the TORNADO'S landed back at Gioia del Colle."



We can deduce from the above that it takes a Tornado just under an hour to transit from Gioia Del Colle to Libya.

The Tornado received it's first aerial refuelling less than 1 hour and 15 minutes after taking off.

The Tornado's sortie lasted for 4 hours in total.

As transit time was about an hour one way,the Tornado would have spent about 2 hours "on task" out of it's 4 hours in the air.

As the objective of this sortie is to maintain an aircraft on station,this mission might be described as acheiving 50% mission efficiency.

With a Tornado spending 2 hours over Libya on each sortie,it would require 24 daily Tornado sorties to maintain a 24 hour 2 Tornado patrol over Libya from Gioia Del Colle.

Figures for the Tornado's sortie generation over Libya have not been released.

However,those same Tornados flying sorties of similar endurance over Afghanistan generate about 6 sorties per day from a total of 8 aircraft in theatre.

It would not be unreasonable to extrapolate from that that 32 Tornados would be required in theatre to generate a 2 aircraft continuous patrol over Libya when flying from Gioia Del Colle.




It is interesting to compare these figures with those for the Harriers which the United States Marines are using in Libya.

On a close air support mission the Harrier II has an unrefuelled endurance of about 3 hours with 2 external drop tanks.

Being based just a few minutes flying time off the Libyan coast,it can can spend well over 2 hours on station in Libyan air space without any aerial refuelling support at all.

A Harrier can also fly multiple sorties over Libya each day.

Based in the Mediterranean Sea,Marine Corps Harriers have been reported to be flying 2 sorties per aircraft per day over Libya.

If that sortie rate were sustainable,it may require as few as 12 Harriers with no aerial refuelling support to maintain 2 Harriers on patrol over Libya continuously.

 

It will be interesting to compare the statistics for the Harriers and Tornados performance over Libya when they are eventually released.

The Tornado is likely to generate far fewer hours on station per aircraft per day than the Harrier with far more aerial refuelling per aircraft per day.

The Tornado and tanker combination also cost far more than the Harrier and carrier alternative.

Monday, 8 November 2010

Sunday, 7 November 2010

Tank Spotting

This is the first of an occasional series.



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