tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245848993516434751.post9055842183288460078..comments2023-04-01T10:38:24.993+01:00Comments on Grand Logistics: Warship CostsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245848993516434751.post-62633700452887003642010-08-25T01:34:56.681+01:002010-08-25T01:34:56.681+01:00Hello Chuck Hill,
I read Bryan McGrath's comm...Hello Chuck Hill,<br /><br />I read Bryan McGrath's comments earlier and I planned to do a short post on just that subject but I have not read the cited paper yet so I will wait until I have got round to that before posting.<br /><br /><br /> tangosix.GrandLogisticshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05216594701400296075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245848993516434751.post-48488970441854835552010-08-25T00:03:11.316+01:002010-08-25T00:03:11.316+01:00TangoSix, Maybe you can answer this one:
http://w...TangoSix, Maybe you can answer this one:<br /><br />http://www.informationdissemination.net/2010/08/on-continuing-decline-of-royal-navy.htmlChuck Hillhttp://CGblog.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245848993516434751.post-10331108719712271092010-08-24T19:35:12.126+01:002010-08-24T19:35:12.126+01:00When we first started hearing about the CVFs (befo...When we first started hearing about the CVFs (before I learned they planned on using the F-35B) It occurred to me that the US should loan the UK one of our conventionally powered CVs so that the RN could get back into operating conventional carriers.Chuck Hillhttp://CGblog.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245848993516434751.post-24365420563720374792010-08-24T19:00:31.776+01:002010-08-24T19:00:31.776+01:00Hello Chuck Hill,
I would say the American ships ...Hello Chuck Hill,<br /><br />I would say the American ships are better equipped and probably more survivable.<br />The British ships have their advantages too,compare Albion's Integrated Full Electric Propulsion with San Antonio's unreliable diesels for example.<br /><br />The British ships tend to have capability deleted to cut costs but even if they were "fully loaded" they would still be far cheaper than the American vessels.<br /><br />The American ships are often more capable and it is worth paying more for extra capability but I am not convinced the extra capability is justified by the magnitude of the extra cost at present.<br /><br />The British and Americans could both gain from working together.<br />If the United States would supply the funding and the United Kingdom supply the designs,the British might be able to afford to equip their ships fully and the Americans might save enough money to buy more ships.<br /><br />There is already a good deal of British kit on American ships and American kit on British ships.<br />Each nation could build domestically to guarantee security of supply.<br /><br /><br /> tangosix.GrandLogisticshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05216594701400296075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245848993516434751.post-43899069646154564462010-08-24T18:47:39.489+01:002010-08-24T18:47:39.489+01:00Hello Martin,
The Queen Elizabeths would have bee...Hello Martin,<br /><br />The Queen Elizabeths would have been even better value for money if they had not been delayed at a cost of £700 Million.<br /><br /><br /> tangosix.GrandLogisticshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05216594701400296075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245848993516434751.post-1912428481171494222010-08-24T17:24:01.303+01:002010-08-24T17:24:01.303+01:00Excellent post. Do think the Burkes and CVNs (at l...Excellent post. Do think the Burkes and CVNs (at least those before the Ford) have advantages that justified their cost, but we also need numbers. US and Britain each creating their own systems probably has some advantage, but think there could be greater commonality of sensor/weapons systems, with offsetting tax advantages. <br /><br />Certainly the US gets their share, but BAE is already a very significant supplier in the US.Chuck Hillhttp://CGblog.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245848993516434751.post-61712381630521646952010-08-24T04:07:08.572+01:002010-08-24T04:07:08.572+01:00Very interesting post and it fits in with allot of...Very interesting post and it fits in with allot of what I have said in the past. US equipment is expensive and overly complicated. The Natural Assumption is that as its American its better. However I think the Samsung Radar on the type 45 is superior to the Aegis. Its smaller and lighter and can be mounted hier up. Aster missiles have allot more room for improvement than the SM missiles family. Once the Type 45's receive their full weapons kit they will be at least comparable to a Burke. The Queen Elizabet Carrier is also a good example of this.m Its able to carry 35 strike aircraft. While the ford can carry more it typically only operates around 40. While Nuclear propulsion sounds good allowing the carrier to operate at high speed with out re-fulling the ship is still tied to its battle group which has to refuel. It also need to take on fuel for its aircraft regularly. The RN has been criticised for over runs in the QE's however many have missed the point. The RN has managed to replicate almost entire capability of a Nimitz or Ford at a fraction of the cost. Quite an achievement. Image what the US Navy could do with its massive budget if it bought ships from the UK.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10792148302262440324noreply@blogger.com